CoffeeTrader

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Victoria
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Message Posted: Sep 27, 2009 4:23:20 PM
I would question the fine print...it kills you every time.
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TomT2Lee

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Cincinnati
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Message Posted: Sep 27, 2009 4:22:56 PM
Government Motors in action. How fitting.
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CiVX

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Oakland
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Message Posted: Sep 27, 2009 4:22:43 PM
If it sounds to good to be true...
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dbatw

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St. Louis
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Message Posted: Sep 27, 2009 4:21:00 PM
Too bad we did not make GM sign a contract that if the public is not satisfied by the way they conduct their business with the public's money that we could get all our money back!
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murdershewrote

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Riverside
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Message Posted: Sep 27, 2009 4:12:42 PM
the old sounds too good to be true caveat
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alterman156

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New York
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Message Posted: Sep 27, 2009 4:07:06 PM
Best way to make sure you'll like the car. Rent the model that you intend to buy for a few days or so. If you don't like it, you'll only lose the cost of the rental. Also test drive the car thoroughly. Examine it carefully before you buy. If there is something that you don't like about, don't buy the car.
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sam09SC

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Columbia
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Message Posted: Sep 27, 2009 4:03:27 PM
Its always something in the way of a free lunch.
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Cuzilla

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Indianapolis
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Message Posted: Sep 27, 2009 4:00:53 PM
Make sure you read the fine print!
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VetteBlue

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San Jose
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Message Posted: Sep 27, 2009 3:57:45 PM
It's a Mason Avenue ploy. It definitely not a free ride. I don't blame GM, there are too many people that will try to manipulate to get a free ride. You better be serious or it will cost you even more.
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RAC110

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Massachusetts
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Message Posted: Sep 27, 2009 3:53:25 PM
there is no such thing as a free lunch someone said many years ago
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goldilox88

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Montreal
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Message Posted: Sep 27, 2009 3:48:52 PM
Buyer's remorse?
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gasie1

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Maine
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Message Posted: Sep 27, 2009 3:41:58 PM
Makes sense to take the $500.
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katiejayWV

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West Virginia
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Message Posted: Sep 27, 2009 3:41:08 PM
To many hoops for me. I'll take the $500.00 bucks.
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the_peddler

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Detroit
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Message Posted: Sep 27, 2009 3:40:14 PM
theres always fine ptint.
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Bezalel

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Oklahoma City
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Message Posted: Sep 27, 2009 3:38:57 PM
It's the same with any contract. If you have a mobile phone, did you read and understand all of it?!
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LuckyD43

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Phoenix
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Message Posted: Sep 27, 2009 3:38:34 PM
Looks like GM's return policy has more holes in it than a slice of swiss cheese. You didn't think they were going to make it easy, did you?
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nozzle46

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Little Rock
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Message Posted: Sep 27, 2009 3:36:27 PM
Yep, better the read the 4pt fine print.
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gasspy49

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Michigan
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Message Posted: Sep 27, 2009 3:31:19 PM
Always a catch and leave it to GM.
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WP62

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New Hampshire
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Message Posted: Sep 27, 2009 3:27:21 PM
I don't see many returns being made.
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SeerLV

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Las Vegas
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Message Posted: Sep 27, 2009 3:25:49 PM
There are always strings!
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gas_too_high

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Columbus
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Message Posted: Sep 27, 2009 3:25:09 PM
The relatively low $200 limit on damage, combined with the provision that GM gets to determine what constitutes "damage," seems to be a deal breaker.
When the chairman of GM says, "If you're not happy, bring it back. We'll refund your money.", and then a substantial limit is tacked on, that's not really honest. Fine print will always qualify an advertised deal, but should not be used to render the deal meaningless.
GTH, who is not buying from Government Motors soon, if ever
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kc5mzr

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Fort Worth
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Message Posted: Sep 27, 2009 3:24:54 PM
Yep, it won't be easy to return the car.
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CSharpGuy

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Colorado Springs
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Message Posted: Sep 27, 2009 3:20:46 PM
Of course, you should always read the fine print with Government Motors.
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Minster

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Wichita
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Message Posted: Sep 27, 2009 3:19:10 PM
if they have a good Warante. and back it up. with a 100,000. and cut the fine print to a minimum. and get the trust of the people back it would be worth it
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REKEY

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South Carolina
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Message Posted: Sep 27, 2009 3:14:45 PM
Read the fine print. The only company I know that did that was Saturn.
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repeater1

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Kansas
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Message Posted: Sep 27, 2009 3:13:13 PM
The right hand giveth and the left hand taketh away. The devil is in the details or fine print.
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Zeke33

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New Hampshire
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Message Posted: Sep 27, 2009 3:12:25 PM
Gotta read the fine print.
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niceguytx

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Houston
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Message Posted: Sep 27, 2009 3:12:02 PM
GM is not thinking long term, because they don't know if they will make it.
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bdeagle1

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Texas
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Message Posted: Sep 27, 2009 3:10:55 PM
Obama and the democracts are full of loopholes. So why would be surpried to learn that this is full of loopholes as well.
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codeman94

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Indiana
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Message Posted: Sep 27, 2009 3:08:44 PM
I knew it was too good to be true
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Bud122CA

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California
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Message Posted: Sep 27, 2009 3:05:27 PM
Why should we start trusting car salesmen????
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FieroGT

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Twin Cities
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Message Posted: Sep 27, 2009 3:05:12 PM
This warranty would not get me to buy a car.
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milespergallon

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Illinois
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Message Posted: Sep 27, 2009 3:02:30 PM
There is an old saying that says: 'If it's too good to be true, it probably is'! Enough said!
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bicycler

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Ontario
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Message Posted: Sep 27, 2009 3:01:16 PM
The fine print is the consumers enemy and the sellers joy!
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Grasshopper53

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Texas
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Message Posted: Sep 27, 2009 3:00:27 PM
Same article from two weeks ago. Still a desperate move from a failing company. Maybe when China owns them this will change.
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flyfast

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Kansas City
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Message Posted: Sep 27, 2009 2:59:06 PM
all in the fine print ask Obama cash for _____
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kwmcbrid

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Iowa
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Message Posted: Sep 27, 2009 2:57:58 PM
An expensive test drive masquerading as a sale. Much cheaper to just test drive several and make sure it's what you want b4 signing the dotted line.
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dcjauburn

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Sacramento
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Message Posted: Sep 27, 2009 2:56:52 PM
This is a repeat of an old article.
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brus282

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North Carolina
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Message Posted: Sep 27, 2009 2:54:53 PM
there will always be a gotcha on crap like this, that's what companies do!
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GasMiserAZ

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Phoenix
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Message Posted: Sep 27, 2009 2:54:38 PM
A person would be a fool to go car shopping with the thought that the thing was returnable if they later decided they didn't want it.
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dred001

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San Jose
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Message Posted: Sep 27, 2009 2:49:54 PM
Get it correct the first time...take the $500 and run
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misuds

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New Haven
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Message Posted: Sep 27, 2009 2:48:26 PM
The first mistake is believing a car salesman. We bought a 2008 Lincoln MKX with "chrome clad aluminum wheels" - they were part of an option package.
What did we get - aluminum wheels with chrome clad PLASTIC wheel covers !
When I asked the dealer about it I was told - they are chrome clad - the chrome is cladding the plastic, then he laughed. I should have decked him.
Another example of truth in the auto industry and it's contempt for the consumer.
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netman044

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Texas
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Message Posted: Sep 27, 2009 2:46:48 PM
Fine print or not, if they are going to advertise a return policy, they should have to advertise all of it. If they don't then they should sued for false advertising.
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Bleeder

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Virginia
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Message Posted: Sep 27, 2009 2:43:26 PM
GM just won't let go of certain practices (like dishonesty). This company sure runs like an Obama product.
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Lengas

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Gary
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Message Posted: Sep 27, 2009 2:43:12 PM
GM usually has tricks up their sleeves, but I agree we should not be able to treat the return of the car to the point of we had free car rental for 30 days.
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StephenOM

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Florida
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Message Posted: Sep 27, 2009 2:41:56 PM
Watch the fine print. Walmart they ain't.
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smoketown

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Cincinnati
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Message Posted: Sep 27, 2009 2:30:33 PM
another gm trick or treat deal
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bbreff

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Atlanta
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Message Posted: Sep 27, 2009 2:27:01 PM
There always has to be a catch.
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amearly

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Michigan
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Message Posted: Sep 27, 2009 2:25:57 PM
The old saying if the deals sounds to good there's probably a catch
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la90042

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Los Angeles
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Message Posted: Sep 27, 2009 2:24:06 PM
come on we all know it was an advertising gimmick - if it was too good to be true- it isn't.
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PetroScopper

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Houston
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Message Posted: Sep 27, 2009 2:22:59 PM
People should just not ever take these types of things so seriously - it's always better than nothing, but never as good as you might like to think! The automaker is always going to protect themselves so they won't end up losing money on the offer.
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snell snail

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Atlanta
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Message Posted: Sep 27, 2009 2:19:42 PM
...interesting gimmick....read the small print....
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